I'll be honest, i don't have a fucking clue about why the "contribution" log has red and green + and - signs. Are they ratings by other people? Are they some of scomplex script, or what? No seriously, what is that about? Do you know? They confuse the hell out of me.
From what I made out of the system, red values are for when your edit takes away a chunk of text or image from an article, and green when you add more to it. Think of it like an essay's wordcount, red means you've shortened the page, and adding more text to it makes it green.
While i do have genuine hatred 4 wikia formula, i sometimes do NOT have much of a choice in that regard, especially when there aren't other well (or crap) made alternative wikies, such as uesp.net and the grand theft wiki, 2 name a few. Although, that might just appear 2 be my personal preference.
Besides, i do not think all wikia wikies are crap, such as Nukapedia and warframe wiki, which both of are put together extremely well. But then, there's complete pieces of shit like the Toukiden wikia, that isn't even funny on how out of date and unprofessional it is, which makes it seem extremely cringeworthy quality wise, as it gives off a very obvious "we don't fucking care" vibe.
Regardless, 1 of my favorite past is reading wiki pages in general, sometimes getting lost reading them 4 several hours at a time, 4 discernible reason. A lot people think it's weird.
With all honesty, if the visual format, comment section coding such as taking me out the ps4's virtual keyboard every time i press the enter/tab button equivalent, amongst other minor issues didn't exist, i probably would like a majority of wikia wikies. While i do oftentimes come off as hostile, it's nothing you guys should concern yourselves with, as i generally am a pretty much an all round nice guy when im not being asshat, sadly many people think me being dickish is all there is 2 me personally which isn't true thankfully.
Your help and input is always welcomed by us, don't get me wrong, and some features on our Wiki are clunky as all heck, that much I agree. We were never really big to begin with, and most of the people handy with coding or things of that type have either gone or only showing up every now and then.
I'm the resident template coder and fixer-upper for the wiki at the moment, and Hassat and GameZone manage how they can, but as we are the wiki is severely understaffed, so we can't really expect the same degree of finesse as the larger ones.
I'm glad you weren't here when we were just getting started, or you might blow a gasket at how poor most of the features were back then. Compared to 2014, the current state of the wiki is a tremendous improvement.
Well, while i am generally hostile towards places like Toukiden wikia (and with good reason), i can respect the wikia wikies, so long as are frequently updated and aren't severely out of date (or just plain removing information 4 no discernible reason).
Im honestly not hugely surprised that you guys are severely understaffed, as the clunkyness is relatively obvious, i was initially expecting better qualities, especially after what im fairly certain was either nukapedia or warframe wiki and was very disappointed after i noticed the lack of quality control, but it's not a huge surprise, especially since you guys are understaffed. Especially since the Payday 2 series a relatively popular (arguably) niche series.
Back in the day when most actually cared about PAYDAY we had a lot of traffic and with that lots of productive and helpful editors. Then CrimeFest 2015 hit and most of us either jumped ship or lost interest. Prior to that point Rhyzak was the chief "inventor" among us, which then transited to me and Hassat when he eventually quit. Hassat is more of a game-savvy admin, since he's quite active on the Steam forums instead of around here, but even then he eventually got banned for asking questions the devs didn't want him to. I myself is new to coding, and admittedly I'm quite bad at it, but most of the templates on the wiki right now are my handiwork, or of others that I've improved upon.
Despite being one of the more active editors who still play the game on a semi-regular basis, I'm starting to see myself faltering as well, so much of the stagnation in wiki progress could very well be due to me slacking off, in a sense.
To tell you the truth, Relixa and GFreeman, I hate the fact that Payday Wiki still hasn't been able to move to the portable infoboxes (which are pretty much a standard now, as shown on Nukapedia, Fire Emblem Wiki, erm… what else?). I even made drafts that are practically just lying around at the moment, probably to be forgotten.
Portable Infoboxes only work on very basic content that's all-text. Put formulas and calculations in like those of the melee weapon or grenade infoboxes and the template freaks out.
That, combined with how stripped-down they have to look and the fact that you can't really fine-tune them without diving into Wikia CSS which only admins could do, makes portables more of a hassle than anything.
Heisters use if/else too to showcase which icons are used (do portable allow that?)
Which would only leave characters, of which we got very few off. Might aswell keep the status quo for them.
And yeah, I do bound in from time to time but real desire to do much effort; not here. Still haven't looked into the values of Brooklyn and Reservoir and likely never will. If Overkill decides they rather ban me rather than step up their extremely sub-par way then why should I actually put in more effort than they do?
I don't really *want* to do that much effort for this, especially seeing my lingering interest in the game due to Overkill's actions.
What voicelines would be interesting anyways? All I can think of is those not actually running ingame, either by bugs or cut content.
Because their game engines are far less annoying to work with than Diesel. Fallout's files are literally one archive away from being fully-extracted and most of them don't even require a dedicated app to do. Bethesda literally gave you the tools to unpack their asset files, while PAYDAY had to make do with a fan made one that could take upwards of an hour to extract textures alone.
Hi, guess who? That's right, it's me, Relixa, the latest wikia iteration is so convenient that i can't even successfully login anymore, because the login script was changed so that it doesn't work on the ps4 browser. Oh sure, you can input username and password and press login, and nothing happens. Neat, huh?
Either way i've bern up 2 my ass with busy as of late, so any updates on the Soundboards i requested? After all, seeing any kind of progress whatsoever would be refreshing.
I almost forgot about this post. against my better judgement, i reset my password on a new laptop. i see nobody replied 2 my non-login comment, which was unexpected. The wikia code is a complete mess now, so the ps4 browser is utterly useless except when browsing pages regularly, using my phone reverts back 2 page 1 when forcing desktop mode, and the search bar is offscreen. Pure fucking genius, don't even get me started on the ps4 1/2 patch, which is an utter disaster, with part 2 nowhere in sight.
i've been so busy boosting trophies (and not dying of a heatstroke), that i haven't had time 4 the wikia at all, literally just got this laptop last monday on the cheap, and it needs a lot of software, yay? It's also got windoh 10, because fuck my life.
In other news, the net is closing in on my account hacker, day by day. going from 1 phone number 2 another, calling san jose california police numbers 1 by 1, until someone takes it up 2 sort out a mess of identity theft, with repeat offenses, and clearly obsessive stalking. my gmail and hotmail have been tried breaking into repeatedly several times now, but they've all been blocked, 4 now.
either way, enough about me. Is even a single soundboard template ready and functional? If not, im not surprised, as you did say it will take ages, and im up 2 my ass with busy anyways. Should probably copy my "favourite" wikia list over onto the page over here, eventually.
I've been having a template on draft for ages. The real issue is getting the sounds.
I've just recently changed computers, so I don't currently have the Bundle tool set-up to extract anything, and we're all inordinately busy around here. I'm currently working full-time as a university teaching assistant, so there's not an awful lot of time to do anything. If you want that soundboard up so badly, perhaps you could try figuring out how to get the sounds uploaded instead of strutting in every now and then demanding to see progress like you're our boss.
Just saying, I'm usually a chill bloke but I've been in a foul mood for so long I might blow up on you by accident.
extracting souds? me? well, that would require tools, and an installed payday 2. the tools aren't a problem, an updated payday 2 however, is problematic: My steam account is effectively hacked, and currently unrecoverable, meaning i'd have 2 get the files and start extracting afterwards, and link files here eventually, the laptop should be able 2 handle that, i'll just check back on it once or twice a day.
dumping the files on the wiki pages themselves is out of the fucking question, as i'd actually have 2 learn what im doing with the template, otherwise it'd look absolutely horrendous, i tried editing a few pagegs on stuff like wf wiki, and the results were cancerous, i somehow reverted them back mostly 2 their old format, without tearing them apart.
just leave me the files somewhere, and i'll get started extracting, and whatnot. I might have an ancient payday 2 copy on the The Archive 1.0, although, that isn't guarenteed.
Well, seems like some of the recent session hijacking is gone, 4 now at least. i'll try and work on those files 4 you if possible, although Crysis 2's online trophies are keeping severely busy, and converting and extracting files on an 8gb memory, dual core processor, is going 2 take a while, cause the laptop is a cheap piece of shit (then again, what can you expect with 350€?).
If someone can be so kind 2 post me a Payday 2 ultimate edition copy so that i wouldn't have 2 buy 2nd copy of payday 2 (own the regular payday 2 on steam more on that in a sec), 1 that i own, but am likely unable 2 access, due 2 crippling account hacking, and possible password changes, so that i wouldn't have 2 make a dummy account AND spend money, only 2 have it get hacked again, while im trying 2 copy the bloody thing, as my mass download extractions have been sabotaged in the past by an unknown 3rd party.
With that said, unless you want me 2 break the law, AND find an unpatched version of payday 2 ultimate edition, i would appreciate a copy kindly, so that i could with all respectfully work on giving you the files that i requested, as im NOT just trying 2 leech another copy of a game that i already own.
sigh* i guess i'll just have make a dummy account on steam at some point, and link an account with details there, and get rid of it asap. BUT, considering i hate a shit ton of things 2 buy, that won't be anytime soon, meaning, this will take even longer than average, as i will have probably make a new bank account (and shut it down afterwards), alongside a steam account, and make sure i buy the fucking thing on a sale, with additonal extra funds no less, just so i can get my hands on the files i need.
I really do want 2 help my own project i asked 4, i really do, but taking all of this into consideration, it's a bit of effort, although, not i can't handle. The final thing that's going 2 take the most time (other than downloading payday 2 ultimate edition), is learning 2 use the tools that i found, just so i can get this process started, afterwards, it's all smooth sailing from there, as im fairly certain that i can automate the conversion progress, although file extraction is going 2 take a while, but once i know what im looking 4, it won't take long.
Before this gets any more sidetracked: While we welcome all assistance on the wiki and would love to help players solve their game-related problems as best we could, somethings you just have to resolve on your own. It is not our obligation to download, install, upload, share or otherwise distribute any game data, for it would be piracy a.k.a. illegal.
This is also not the place to air out your grievances with session hijacking or whatever, since it's not game-related and is in no way conducive to getting anything done. We all have our problems to tend to, and this has dragged on for long enough IMO.
Hey GFreeman! I'm Jamie from FANDOM's Community Development team! Not sure if we never asked you if you are interested in turning on the Discussions feature for this community, and migrating the Threaded Forums across as well.
In case you are unaware of the feature, Discussions was introduced last year to help communities engage with users and fans. It lives in its own space on the wiki and allows users to interact with other members of the community. It is also mobile friendly and gives mobile users a chance to contribute and engage with the community, and possibly turn them into wiki editors as well. Discussions also links with our FANDOM Apps, which this community has and it allows app users to easily take part in Discussions as well. You can read more about Discussions here.
For more information on migrating forums to Discussions, you can check out this blog over on Community Central that explains everything in detail.
If you have some concerns, Discussions, and Forums can exist side-by-side in case you do not want to migrate just yet. However, eventually all Forums will be migrated over to Discussions and Forums will be sunsetted as a feature, so getting ahead of the curve is never a bad idea.
Feel free to have an open discussion with your community about this, and I'm available for any questions you might have. Have a good one!
I find it an interesting function and would like to see it in action, but I couldn't find the feature anywhere on my admin dashboard, so might I ask if it's still under development or something? Since I'm interested in giving it a test drive anyway, I'd like to also have the ability to disable it, if temporarily, if it's not working as intended.
Yeah I've seen it in action on some other wiki that I frequent. Couldn't hurt to keep it on, I suppose, since I've been trying to find a way to soup up our Forums anyway. I'd say, if possible, I'd like to have both running side-by-side for the time being, since that way it will give time for the older contributors to familiarise themselves with the new format while also letting newcomers engage in conversations without being weirded out.
I don't quite recall explicitly calling the SE limited? Checked again with the store today, though, and learned that Sept 27 is only the end of the promo and not the sale of the SE as I believed, so that might have been the misleading factor.